Poker in Practice - Overbetting and Capped Ranges (3)

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The third part of w34z3l's series called Poker in Practice takes on overbetting and capped ranges. Enjoy!


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  • Danicek


    Hi, at first, really good idea for video, thanks for this. Also i have couple of questions about hands you showed to us.

    Hand 41:00: I think, that we dont represent anything, cant find any valuehand for this line, so i think that his call with TT is not that horrible. I think that smaller betsizing will generate higher FE than this overbet. What do you think about it ?

    Hand 42:10 Again, i feel like we dont represent anything and opponent has got easy call with something like TT,JJ, A9, or maybe even something like 66 if he calls this pre. All draws that complete on river, we would be doube barreling on the turn like( FD, most of gutshots), Maybe the only hand which makes sense in our range is 98s. So dont you think that its kind of faceup there ?
  • w34z3l


    There is a levelling issue that occurs, as a result of the fact that we don't represent hands very well always. In the majority of cases though, what we represent is not remotely important, it's simply what our opponent's range looks like that we care about. Even if he suspects that we might be bluffing, it takes a measure of courage to find a call with a marginal bluffcatcher. The majority of players will not do it.

    Assuming they will bluffcatch against the larger sizings then it's true that betting a regular sizing with bluffs (to represent better thin value), may generate more Feq and hence a much better price on our bluff. Then naturally we'd bet our limited value-range for the large sizing since our opponent gives us no credit and will bluffcatch light.

    In many cases we'll often be purely overbetting as a bluff, or purely overbetting for value. Against a slightly better opponent we'd need to include both bluffs and value hands in each of the lines. Keep in mind also that it doesn't necessarily matter if we are repping narrow after overbetting seeing as our large sizing allows us to get away with a more bluff-heavy range.
  • munjadin


    i agree with you
  • Zolotarsp


    5 out of 5, as usual. Keep 'em coming! :)
  • mikokopex


    Even if he suspects that we might be bluffing, it takes a measure of courage to find a call with a marginal bluffcatcher. The majority of players will not do it.
  • msnek


    27:25 So why is overbetting here for value a good idea if villains got capped (= not strong) range ? We wanna get called our overbet with potential draws and/or overpairs like TT (probably villains dont have much of these either). Isn't better to bet 2/3 of the pot to get called by hands as weak as 8x ?
  • msnek


    28:35 Again, similar spot as above. I don't understand why overbetting here could be any good with our actual hand ? As you said, it is very unlikely he has strong holding. So why would we overbet when we wanna get thin value with our TPTK hand ?
  • msnek


    29:10 I guess I am really stupid or dumb, but I don't get it. Why is overbetting here a good idea with our actualy holding ? And I feel that turn card Kh is actually hiting villains range quite good, isn't it ? I would just bet around half the pot - up to 2/3 of the pot for thin value and protection.
  • w34z3l


    I don't have time to look at the spot again, but basically it is correct to make large sizings when our opponent's range is capped. In practice it might be a good idea to bet small for value when our opponent is weak, to encourage calls. But this would only be vs an opponent who overfolds vs overbets, so it'd still be maxEV to have an overbetting range in such spots, we'd just bluff 100% and never value bet. Vs an opponent who bluffcatches with a reasonable frequency it simply allows us to get more money into the pot with our hands that can never be beaten while at the same time giving us room to expand our bluff-range due to the large sizing. Win-win.