Vidéos: No Limit $25 Stratégie du Petit Tapis Session Review

#1 TheBu11d0g, 15/08/08 15h52

Great 1st video Leo. It really helped me understand the SSS by watching it in conjunction with the articles.

Cant wait to watch the 2nd one mate.

Well done on your 1st effort and keep 'em coming.

#2 batmanbg, 15/08/08 22h06

Nice video. One question - from where i can download same SHC like yours?

#3 Timbo925, 15/08/08 23h27

You rock leo :D Good video and your english is very clear ;) Hope you make some more sesion revieuws because you can realy lern mutch of them

#4 thedahl, 15/08/08 23h54

That was a fantastic video! Best video I have seen yet.

#5 CRI4BRA, 15/08/08 23h55

nice video leo,

i'd like to ask tho, can you post a link to the cards package you used in this vid?

or send me the package as an attachment to my email?

thanks,

cristian

#6 TheBu11d0g, 16/08/08 12h55

Batmanbg, you can get the Bronze SHC via a download on his coaching sessions which are every Sunday.

Hope that helps

Regards,

Steve

#7 Tim29876, 16/08/08 16h00

Excellent vid! I'm a beginner SSS follower and the calm and clear presentation allowed me to keep up. Distortionless voice/sound was very pleasant to the ear. Visuals were crisp too. Hope to see more of your videos!

#8 WOLFBASS, 16/08/08 17h42

Good first video Leo. Keep up the good work

#9 DanRamone, 17/08/08 15h00

Batmanbg check it here http://www.pokerstrategy.org.uk/download/nl/ShortstackStrategie/shc_nl.pdf

#10 theperni, 17/08/08 17h12

Very nice video!

#11 DSAces, 18/08/08 00h10

Nice video, but that chart is a piece of junk. It only takes into account your position and not your opponents position. There is no way folding 7's blind vs blind just because the small blind raised is the right play.

#12 hyppolito, 18/08/08 01h30

Awesome Leo. Waiting for the seccond one. Cheers!

#13 TimothyVdp1, 20/08/08 23h52

pahy pokahhhhh ;)

#14 TobinqBe, 21/08/08 00h47

nice accent leo pahypokah fooh teh whin

#15 Gerv, 21/08/08 19h30

You have to give this guy some kudos respect and credits!
Great vid!

#16 TheBrood, 25/08/08 20h00

Very good video, helped me a lot in understanding what to fold, even on the button. Thnx!

#17 Leo, 25/08/08 23h13

Thanks for the great feedback guys, Im really glad you enjoyed it ^^

#18 Gerv, 10/09/08 09h01

De Pahty Poker Video! A born legend!

#19 selgae, 10/09/08 10h52

Zeer leerzame video. Een aanrader voor iedereen

#20 TimothyVdp1, 10/09/08 13h09

pahy

#21 JinJin, 16/09/08 19h06

is er een manier om deze video te downloaden?

#22 darko163, 21/09/08 12h37

Prima video, maar wel erg tight hoor! Ik vraag me dan ook af of hij wel voldoende sterke handen krijgt om winst te maken en eens ze doorhebben dat hij zo tight speelt is hij volgens mij zo weg te bluffen...of niet?

#23 gestureman, 09/10/08 00h46

well put together with good running commentary..nice one!

#24 piresromeu, 24/10/08 17h40

Outstanding.

#25 DockHoliday, 25/10/08 21h49

I agree, nice job Leo... You are so right about how hard it is sometimes to fold hands like QA to the aggression... Playing SS requires lot of patience, i guess. Thumbs up.

#26 itsKsharp, 27/10/08 15h01

9:10 or something, 77 in the sb vs a co shortstakc raise, isnt 77's ahead of his rasing range? wouldnt pushing over his raise be +ev?

#27 mouse89, 13/11/08 16h41

ok

#28 bolachasp, 17/11/08 09h24

really nice video!

#29 AmericanRocket, 24/11/08 23h15

Yeah, really nice :) Just keep by charts and everything will be nice :) Thanx for video ! :)

#30 jbirgelis, 03/12/08 20h23

Thanks, really helped!

#31 CaoPhi, 07/12/08 21h29

nice video!

#32 pr3DeX, 15/12/08 03h00

GJ with this video

#33 SVD018, 30/12/08 08h32

Great video pure 10 for it

#34 theratxb, 03/01/09 21h18

a very good help thanks

#35 ColinDucklow, 04/01/09 03h28

thanks it really helped

#36 ssloper, 15/01/09 19h25

great video can. looking forward to see more from you

#37 uKwPlayer, 26/01/09 21h31

this video help me a lot to rewin my money back , ty!

#38 moscow1818, 27/01/09 14h28

Best video on SSS i've seen so far. But I am a newb. It actually fitted full screen without losing any of the picture - big plus.

#39 HugeLayDown, 28/01/09 04h31

This video helped a lot, however, I think you should've slow played that straight. Your opponent probably would've tried a bet on the turn. You have to take the chance even if he did have a flush draw, in my opinion.

This is an extremely conservative way of playing, which I like, especially short stacked. The only play pre-flop that would've been a raise to me is TT in ealy position. Throw out a pot raise, see what happens.

#40 RailAce, 29/01/09 19h05

Position isn't the only thing you have to take into account when playing poker. Going only by what the starting hand chart tells you is the wrong way to play.

For example, folding pocket 6's on the dealer button with no limpers is a horrible play. First, even if someone calls and you don't hit your set, you still have position and can easily take down the pot if your opponent didn't hit the flop. Just my opinion

#42 Leo, 31/01/09 15h57

#34: I agree that slowplay can SOMETIMES work. You should be particularly careful with slowplaying as you give away free cards. Playing with an absolute monster, with no possibilities of any draws and against a maniac would be the only situation where you should slowplay.
However, slowplaying poses a leak for many beginners and therefor is almost always inadvisable.

#35: I dont agree that folding sixes is a horrible play. Of course you could reason such a hand can be used for stealing.
The reason this is a fold according to the SHC is that the SHC is used for the lower limits and gives as little variance as possible, while still posing a winning and effective strategy. At higher limits you will learn to deviate from the SHC and add late play to your arsenal.

On the lowest limits and with basic SSS this is not yet part of a winning strategy.

Thanks for all the great feedback guys! Hope it all helped you learn the basics of SSS.
If you have any questions about it, just feel free to post it here.

Cheers,
Leo

#43 timkuy, 01/02/09 15h27

really helpfull thanks alot

#44 cgabriela44, 05/02/09 17h04

Nice video Leo

#45 Vaidas111, 10/02/09 16h56

Thanks Leo

#46 yankee92, 11/02/09 19h58

Great video, really helped.

#47 CrazyPink, 18/02/09 14h07

Thnx, well be waiting for more

#48 hyaenodon, 19/02/09 23h50

Hi there! Firstly thanks Leo for the great video!
I'm playing with respect to the charts in your video, but to be honest, I'm a little worried about one thing: what if I never get such a playable pre-flop hand, and I break down due to the amount of blinds?
I'm a newbie, as you see...
Please tell me not to worry about that. :)

#49 Leo, 21/02/09 13h06

Heya hyaenodon,

Its understandable you worry about such things, however for full ring tables this is not a problem.

This is one of the reasons why SSS is not profitable on tables with less then 7 players. The amount of times blinds come by do decrease your winnings a lot here.

Anyway, not to worry. The SSS is a mathematically proven concept. The hands you play according to the chart come by often enough to make the strategy profitable on full ring tables. Sometimes it just takes a while to get good hands ;)

GL,
Leo

#50 robintea, 21/02/09 16h05

Nice Video

How much money have you win with it?

Were do i can get your starting hand charts

Tanks

#51 hyaenodon, 25/02/09 17h26

Thanks Leo for your explanation!
I've faced another problem, while playing on PartiPoker. The SSS guide says that I should buy-in with 20 BBs.
Now I play on 0.02$/0.04$, and that would be 0.8$. But when I try to buy in, the system says that the minimum is 2$. So basically I'm forced to violate the guide's rules. Note that I must play on 0.02$/0.04$, according to the guide, to respect the min. 30 buy-ins bankroll management.
Will this issue influence my profit, or I'm just too pathetic? :)

#52 Gerv, 04/03/09 15h03

NL10 is the minimum limit for SSS regardless your bankroll. with $50 you are doing fine on Nl10 SSS because opponents will pay you off often because they are so bad :)

#53 buky69, 07/03/09 04h06

Great video for beginners, every player shoud watch it.The video explaines SSS strategy on a simle way.

#54 bynx09, 08/03/09 15h02

were do iget the startinhand chart from! :) cheers

#55 tamis900, 24/03/09 12h20

Very good video!! it help me a lot in understanding when to fold,

#56 bluffinthemuff, 26/03/09 18h28

Is it a good idea to print out this chart very small and bring it to a casino cash game?

#57 panther2207, 01/04/09 01h54

G'day mate.

really good video mate, very helpful.
Cheers!

#58 jakerah, 02/04/09 15h58

great ! :)

#59 delete461, 04/04/09 07h45

dont print out the SHC. At the start of each session write it down on paper, then at the end of the session screw it up and throw it away. After writing it down a few times you wont need it anymore, you will know it by heart.

#60 deadlyhand, 16/04/09 10h17

short stacking on 25nl is just suicide...

#61 Leo, 16/04/09 13h41

@5: Nope, dat valt best mee. En juist als ze je weg willen bluffen is dat goed. Omdat je zo weinig handen speelt en alleen de sterkte, zul je vaak voorlopen.

@6: Winning up to NL400. The SHC you can find in the articles

@7: "... for the other 9 players" I guess ;)

#62 foxymama0945, 19/04/09 21h21

i m new to no limt hold em ...your vieo is very helpful..thx

#63 paesjie, 23/04/09 15h53

de chart dat hij gebruikt verschilt van mijn nederlandse versie (bv. raise/stack size ratio)... is deze vollediger ? kan ik deze ook downloaden?

#64 tiltinaction, 28/04/09 22h32

thank you, great video!

#65 inchmca33, 29/04/09 00h16

very good video.

#66 monkey0nfire, 05/05/09 02h45

great vid, awesome info. this is hopefully going to be the fundamentals in the growth of my bankroll!

#67 Mincuhx, 16/05/09 19h41

great vid.

#68 tuk4tuk, 22/05/09 22h09

nice video,ty!

#69 Maxbibby1991, 30/05/09 14h17

where can you get that hand chart?

#70 michael8482, 08/06/09 01h02

Thats great leo really helped me alot thank you

#71 pondlife78, 08/06/09 05h33

Very useful video to demostrate the SSS. Some of the tables you were playing on had 3 or more other short-stacks. Isn't that something the guides state to avoid?

#72 strakals, 09/06/09 14h39

very nice video...thanks leo!

#73 purehatred0, 11/06/09 09h59

Nice run down of what we have learned from the initiation. Thanks Leo ill give this style a go

#74 Nenon, 26/06/09 12h45

Thanks for the vid man, helped a lot seeing the strategy in action in a real play situation. Cheers!

#75 iAMwearingPINK, 07/07/09 01h42

thanks for the vid leo, good sound and visual qualities. however... i have read all the comments above, i do understand what worries the people.. what does SSS say about the pot odds??? when, for example, in pre-flop u have to pay an extra $0.25 into an existing pot of $2.75 instead of folding ur Ace suited hand???? if u hit the flush, u can double or tripple up.. at least at a low cost...
...hopefully u can understand the idea behind my comment and give ur thoughts on that...
and at the end of the video i noticed that on all the 4 tables ur stack was <5.00$ where as u started with a bit more than that... so can u consider that a bad session or?

#76 iAMwearingPINK, 07/07/09 01h43

thanks for the vid leo, good sound and visual qualities. however... i have read all the comments above, i do understand what worries the people.. what does SSS say about the pot odds??? when, for example, in pre-flop u have to pay an extra $0.25 into an existing pot of $2.75 instead of folding ur Ace suited hand???? if u hit the flush, u can double or tripple up.. at least at a low cost...
...hopefully u can understand the idea behind my comment and give ur thoughts on that...
and at the end of the video i noticed that on all the 4 tables ur stack was <5.00$ where as u started with a bit more than that... so can u consider that a bad session or?

#77 jodev, 12/07/09 11h09

Hi,

thanks for the video.

I have one question. In case of losing after pushing all in. What is our next step?

Bring in again into the same or another table?

#78 Billyorange, 15/07/09 03h54

Leo will you please send me a copie nof the shc you used in this vid. the one the site gave me was different. p.s great vid.

#80 2Ripped4U, 10/08/09 13h15

Waar kan ik de de overzichten downloaden die hij gebruikt. Positie en welke kaarten te spelen etc?

#81 Janusrichmond, 13/08/09 23h32

Don´t you play again to many shortstacks at some of your tables?
Anyway, the video was great!

#82 ij79, 14/08/09 17h06

Hi, Nice Video however, I couldn't help but notice that in accordance with the SSS Articles you shoudln't be sitting at 3 of those table because of stack Sizes. Is this correct?

#83 daphr, 17/08/09 17h06

great video! thanks for sharing!

#84 dam890, 24/08/09 21h50

where can I find the SHC

#85 baaf500, 13/09/09 11h11

nice video..

now i get the SSS better

#86 durstan, 21/09/09 01h17

thx for ze help

#87 Titicamara, 28/09/09 08h19

Hi, nice review session. Got a question. What if we raised preflop with QQ and we got a caller and the flop comes 3AK...do we still shove it all in or check? Thanks.

#89 perkorator, 05/10/09 15h28

wher can i download the starting hand for short stack

#90 THeGaME23, 12/10/09 04h40

Slow playing the straight is a bad idea. The opponent either has a made hand or a drawing hand or a garbage hand at this point. If he slow plays he allows the player who is waiting to hit a flush to catch up. And if they other player has a made hand like AK or AJ he will get re-raised and take in the max profit. So it makes more sense to bet.

#91 Venter2, 21/10/09 21h35

Hi
I dont uzderstand Leo, Whay you sit on thous tables with 3 or 4 smalstecks? is it not less profitable?

#92 gedwashere91, 22/10/09 07h13

Venter, its only less profitable if they're playing SSS. Sometimes they're just fish who decided to sit down with a minimum stack. So i've been told, at least.

P.s. keep the low-rank videos coming :D

#93 AlanMCarter, 03/11/09 00h17

Great Vid well explained many thanks
The pre quiz sss is slightly different from the one you played - eg
3:30 in KQ bottom right table - the basic strategy says go all in to that $1 raise yet your stack2raise says no. I don't disagree with it but I want to get the strategy exact so we should ammend our charts? Also I would've slow played the straight to get the extra bet - did you decide not to do that because in order for sss to work you have to obey the set rules? Thanks once again

#94 tenorbetter, 04/11/09 23h19

love it. works a treat.

#95 futbolas69, 08/11/09 21h27

Position isn't the only thing you have to take into account when playing poker. Going only by what the starting hand chart tells you is the wrong way to play.

#96 Mate0, 09/11/09 11h40

Eu cred ca foldul acela cu TT a fost cam grabit. Un call era de ajuns, si daca dadea raise, fold. Simplu.

#97 Armaselu, 22/11/09 18h46

daca facea asa nu mai juca SSS :)

#98 Fireteh, 28/11/09 08h35

nu stiu
eu nu m as putea retrage cu KQ daca nu ar plusa cineva inainte mea..as da
un call

#99 Fireteh, 28/11/09 08h37

la 77 scria sa dea rise
si el se retrage, de ce???

#100 Fireteh, 28/11/09 08h39

cand te retragi asa de repede e ca si cum nu ti ai dat nici o sansa de la inceput , pokerul mai e legat putin si de noroc , poate ca o sa invat cateva lucruri din strategia asta , dar sigur nu o sa o aplic in totalitate.

#101 Rebegea, 08/12/09 05h06

#4 se retrage pentru ca dat raise inainte cineva si e periculos

#102 tomtom321go, 08/12/09 22h09

At a certain point you had KQ and there was a 1$ raise with 2 callers, even though te strategy card tells you to raise, you fold. when do you follow the strategy en when do you just fold

#103 DarthArt, 22/12/09 12h34

Хорошее видео,всё хоть и на английском,но очень просто и понятно.Спасибо автору!

#104 Teyiebuns, 25/12/09 19h01

Thank you Leo, I found this video really helpful as a new player :-)

#105 Teyiebuns, 27/12/09 17h59

This may seem a stupid question, but can you explain it to me. When you're playing the hands - you can see people have raised already in the position after you even though it's not their turn yet.

Example - 2:!4 in on the 77 hand top right. There's a raise from the guy to your left, but you havn't bet yet - why is this, or have you already called and he's re-raised? Can you explain cause I'm confused my client doesn't show this yet.

#106 Lim00n, 28/12/09 01h27

He is sitting in the big blind, who is last to act in the betting preflop (big blind is then 2nd to act at the flop, turn and river - acts after small blind)

#107 Teyiebuns, 30/12/09 18h36

Thank you Lim00n, I am stupid! :-P

#108 Teyiebuns, 30/12/09 18h42

Leo...

4:10 in, the KQ hand, which you had to fold. Is this what they call a 're-steal' by the BB, so he 're-steals' the BB from you, if you had AJ or AQ, for example, would you raise all-in here, as oppose to fold if it was anyone other than BB who raised? Does this make sense? I only just realised today what a 'steal' and 're-steal' is? I realise your KQ was not strong enough to do this with.

#109 Teyiebuns, 30/12/09 18h44

Another question, apologies for so many...

On the same question as #90. On your chart you have a 'stack size:raise size ratio' chart. But on my chart I downloaded from PokerStrategy.com this chart doesn't exist, so I don't know whether to copy your chart down and use this. Would I use this is in ANY situation where I was re-raised? Not just blinds?

#110 RemusA, 02/01/10 07h35

Exact Fireth,de aia esti si tu ai video-uri aici pe strategy :))

#111 retardonk, 12/01/10 16h45

E buna, functioneaza. Singurele momente nasoale au fost cand am adus eu imbunattiri.:)

#112 MakuRz, 22/01/10 11h29

It helped me a lot ! Thanks !

#113 kiddd7, 23/01/10 11h25

a dat fold cu 77 pentru ca a facut cineva raise inainte si strategia spune clar all-in sau fold iar in situatia de fata fold a fost decizia corecta :)

#114 arnokas, 17/02/10 08h56

a very nice vid :) enjoyed

#115 Egidijus203, 21/02/10 18h52

thx this realy help me

#116 StanislavI, 23/02/10 15h40

Таблицата на началните ръце, която Lео използва е стара. Най-добре да използвате актуалната таблица от http://bg.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/no-limit/1373/1

#117 luizrjst, 28/02/10 03h03

Very good video, helped me on money management and in some plays I usually missed

#118 MaGnyS, 14/03/10 14h20

Автору большая благодарность... Все объяснено на высшем классе.. +1

#119 krogertiene, 18/03/10 13h08

Great video,realy helps..

#120 arkanen, 30/03/10 00h54

Don't wanna nitpick, but for me it seems like in 6:40 you were in early, not middle position - still the same rules apply so no big deal. To me easiest way to count position (of course if you're in late or blinds its very easy) is counting counter-clockwise from the dealer.

#121 Jeffalicious, 20/04/10 18h43

does anyone know how can i get a starting hand chart just like the one in the video??

#122 beerdog222, 10/05/10 19h14

i just watch my first video on here and have been playing a for some time now and leaned more off of this one video than i have the hole time playing.thank so much and cant wait to watch more.

#123 beerdog222, 10/05/10 19h17

asnd were can i get that starting hand chart

#124 Gerv, 11/05/10 10h15

The starting hand chart in this video is outdated and incomplete therefore I recommend just downloading the v4 in the strategy articles:
http://bit.ly/d0anZD

- Gerv

#128 erickaie, 06/06/10 14h39

nice vid verry nice hehehe ,,,its helps,, but where can i get the chart like your ???

#129 vov977, 11/06/10 07h38

Автор good job!

#130 Barchie, 25/06/10 23h33

заметили? тут и Diafall играл

#131 pleyboyZ, 10/07/10 14h25

Nice vid. Where i can download those cards?

#132 JonnyJr555, 19/10/10 18h02

nice video there!
lot of action there! +1 pokerstrategy

#133 fanel09, 03/12/10 07h31

HI!I have a question... Suppose we hold AJ in big blind UTG1-limp MP2-limp BTN-raise. Wath is the best play here? We go all-in and take this situation like a steal or because are 2 limpers we fold like we do to a normal raise situation?

#135 churchilland, 12/11/11 00h37

what a old video, great but you were quite lucky with AK

#136 ishallpass0, 14/01/12 08h14

such a luckbox lol

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